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Re: Lets wait until we know the facts.

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Posted by John in RVA on January 31, 2011 at 16:36:47:

In Reply to: Re: Lets wait until we know the facts. posted by Mike Casey on January 31, 2011 at 16:08:00:

I think Joe Amoré and Lotta Bull said it correctly above. There was a time when late entries were not accepted, at all. Period. But, then, things got complicated. A 25 team contest (which would be a qualifier) who has team that DQ's AND scored zero, would end up showing 24 teams...and, thereby, not be a qualifier any longer. This has the affect of penalizing, particularly the GC, who had nothing to do with the DQ, i.e., they became an innocent victim. It also could have implications in the TOY calculation. So, the practice was changed to "accept" (unfortunate and ambiguous choice of words, IMHO) the late box, not for judging purposes, but, rather, to take it to a table so that judges could enter both the team number and 1's for all 3 criteria. Doing such maintained the proper and correct count of how many teams actually were in the contest so that other contests which depend on an accurate number of teams for their invitationals would know the true and correct number. Refusing to accept a box would not allow that to happen. Unfortunately, I can't remember when that practice change occurred. To further complicate matters, I think on occasion a box that got DQ's for being late AND properly had 1's entered on the judges' official score sheets, actually got judged as a "favor" to the team, and those judges willing to do so, entered their scores on the comment cards that go back to the team after awards, so the team would have a sense of how it would have done if it had been officially evaluated. Good Q'en On Ya'. John

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