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Re: Claremore Boots & BBQ


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Posted by John in RVA on May 16, 2011 at 10:09:30:

In Reply to: Claremore Boots & BBQ posted by Team MooChewSooey on May 15, 2011 at 10:13:33:

Sorry to hear about your chicken issues. As for "what the reps are supposed to do" question, here's the text from the KCBS Rep Manual that addresses this issue:

"3.1 Under Cooked Meat

Question:
Uncooked meat doesn’t seem to violate any rules. How do you score an entry if a judge refuses to eat their sample because it is undercooked?

Opinion: Under cooked meat poses a health problem and shouldn’t be eaten. A score of two (2) through nine (9) should be given for taste and tenderness by the judge(s) who refuse to eat the entry. This is not a disqualification and therefore should not be given a one (1). Assuming the entry has already been scored for appearance, do not go back and change the score given for appearance.

NOTE: It’s not uncommon for smoked chicken to be pink, especially near the bone. This should not be confused with undercooked meat. Use the “napkin” test (place paper towel against the meat/bone; if it comes away pink, or red, it is undercooked.) February 17, 2006

Amendment to Raw Chicken Advisory:
When a judge finds a piece of chicken not completely cooked and verifies it via the napkin test, the rep will not request the judge find an area cooked in order to score it for taste or tenderness. The judge should simply be instructed to utilize the definitions on the score card and score accordingly.--
KCBS Board of Directors, April 14, 2010"

If you need the definitions from the score card, drop me an email and I'll send them to you.

I can't address what may have been said in a CBJ class, but as far as I know, a rep generally doesn't visit a team unless there's been a "1" scored...i.e., a DQ. A score of 2, of course, doesn't qualify.

Personally, I believe every score of 5 or below should be accompanied by a comment card, but, until the "discretionary" is removed and replaced by "mandatory," I don't believe anything will change. That said, with every contest I rep I'm seeing more comment cards turned in. That tells me that judges are becoming less shy about, and more comfortable with, turning them in. I hope that trend continues.



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